What the Mountain Brook Students Really Have Said

Holmes, I have avoided confrontation with you since our last difference of opinion. You have no opinions because you feel that you are always, unequivocally correct in your assumptions. It's your way or the highway. I have watched you cut down other posters over the past few days..and kept quiet. It would be better if you just ignored me. We will NEVER agree....so, as I've asked previously, let's just agree to disagree. OK :D Eloquent response, Gabrielle. I get a kick out of it when showing the facts that prove someone is wrong is called "cutting down" that person. I guess you want to be free to say anything, no matter how bogus, without a response. Sorry, Gabby, I don't play that.

How could Natalee "always be the first one up", yet managed to miss 2 breakfasts? Maybe puking in the toilet at 3AM was "the first one up" on that trip.

Words of Wisdom makes a very intereresting point. Ruth left at the same time that Joran arrived. Did she leave because she was upset?

Ruth McVay said she went back to the room early and went to sleep...also said that she woke up at 4:00 a.m. and noticed Natalee was not in the bed next to her as she had been on previous nights. Has this been verified via hotel video or hotel employee account? All parts of that statement.Excellent question. Isn't she the one that was flirting with Joran? Yes. Makes you go hmmmm.

Ruth McVay said she went back to the room early and went to sleep...also said that she woke up at 4:00 a.m. and noticed Natalee was not in the bed next to her as she had been on previous nights. Has this been verified via hotel video or hotel employee account? All parts of that statement.Excellent question. Isn't she the one that was flirting with Joran? Yes. Makes you go hmmmm. It sure does. Sure hope the FBI question these girls again.

Words of Wisdom makes a very intereresting point. Ruth left at the same time that Joran arrived. Did she leave because she was upset? According to Stinkypete, Ruth was the lucky charm girl that Joran won money for in the casino and was all over Joran. Some of the other girls were very attentive. So who got into Joran's car and what really did happen to Nat? Lottsa, lottsa questions.

Words of Wisdom makes a very intereresting point. Ruth left at the same time that Joran arrived. Did she leave because she was upset? According to Stinkypete, Ruth was the lucky charm girl that Joran won money for in the casino and was all over Joran. Some of the other girls were very attentive. So who got into Joran's car and what really did happen to Nat? Lottsa, lottsa questions. Lotsa questions indeed. What if Joran left Natalee on the beach and when she returned to the hotel she and Ruth got into it. OMG - who knows what may have really happened!

Add to this, Francis Ellen Byrd's - I'll just leave it at that, when asked about if she saw Natalee later. I have always been suspicious of her. Maybe she and Ruth are really close.

And one more thing...doesn't anyone else find it strange that Ruth left an hour earlier than ALL others, all by herself, to go back to sleep- on the last night on the island, around the same time JK2 were arriving at C&C's? Maybe her and her boyfriend wanted some "private time".

McVey's and Byrd's comments about that night. For some reason, the third girl is not identified... http://www.scrux.com/natalee/mbinterview.htm

"New" information added: Holloway's stepfather, George "Jug" Twitty, told the AP that Holloway met the Dutch student in the casino of her hotel and flirted with him two days before she disappeared. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,159128,00.html

I just added this, of which I was reminded on another thread: Could there have been a case of mistaken identity? It's certainly possible. Here's what Arbeej, the mother of Alana Jordan (Alana was on the trip) said on tripadvisor: She was puzzled when she heard that Natalee had been sick in the bathroom, because she herself did not *see* or even hear about *anyone* being sick in the bathroom, even though the club isn't all that big. A tourist couple says it was Natalee being sick and her friends were helping her. It turns out that someone matching Nat's description on the trip (80% of them match Nat's description!) had indeed been sick. We in the community now know who the girl was because she and her friends confirmed this up at the church. It wasn't Natalee, even though the tourists *believed* that's who they saw (= eyewitness report). But it *did* happen -- at least as far as a MB girl being sick -- even though some of the girls at the club did not at first believe it (= eyewitness report). Lots of inconsistencies there -- but none deliberate or technically false... except the i.d., which was an understandable mistake.

I just added this, of which I was reminded on ahother thread: Could there have been a case of mistaken identity? It's certainly possible. Here's what Arbeej, the mother of Alana Jordan (Alana was on the trip) said on tripadvisor: She was puzzled when she heard that Natalee had been sick in the bathroom, because she herself did not *see* or even hear about *anyone* being sick in the bathroom, even though the club isn't all that big. A tourist couple says it was Natalee being sick and her friends were helping her. It turns out that someone matching Nat's description on the trip (80% of them match Nat's description!) had indeed been sick. We in the community now know who the girl was because she and her friends confirmed this up at the church. It wasn't Natalee, even though the tourists *believed* that's who they saw (= eyewitness report). But it *did* happen -- at least as far as a MB girl being sick -- even though some of the girls at the club did not at first believe it (= eyewitness report). Lots of inconsistencies there -- but none deliberate or technically false... except the i.d., which was an understandable mistake. Those meetings at the church seemed to be where they went to firm up the stories they were supposed to tell. :roll:

If we all read really thoroughly Roger`s site and all the quotes of the students......You really see clear that they lying their fucking asses of!! They rather save their own skinny butts b/c they are more afraid of their daddy`s, and worried about appearences in the community, then they would tell the truth!! Wow what a great achievement, and what a great admireable kind of people they would become, NOT! brrrr give me a Big bucket please!! They rather let innocent people sit in jail, then that they would ever admit they had sex on the beach, performing BJ`s, switched rooms to have some, drank as Ol`russians, fucked their brains of and still maintain their virginity, then they would ever tell the REAL TRUTH! :roll:

Maybe Ruth McVey was the girl that was really with Joran and Natalee really did go off with a drug dealer???????? :shock: Nothing they say adds up. Throw in the 3AM phone call to William Morris, the one that Beth never discusses, where Natalee said, "I don't know these people." and that gets Joran off the hook because he is at home on his computer. So who was Nat with and why the phone call?

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